You are harsh with BD2 - the whole round we saw ppl taking desicions against their allies , countless stabs and betrayals. Leaders deserted , coalitions broke down , teams changed sides.
Why BD2 should turn from WSS relic? If Neutron or Zeus had moved against Psi relic - AGE would never get to 3 relics + Bones could be negated except if he agreed to join other winning team ( with just an army ). Many moves happened at the end , why should BD2 cancel an attack out of faith? We saw how this went with Neutron and his closed allies who made ARES to return.
Dont make it sound like a simple desicion and no one could be sure at the end if HINI would provide a shelter for a win that ppl wouldnt join them. So while i do undetstand your point that BD2 hurt your team it is unfair to accuse them of helping HINI or denying AGE the win.
Because if they had Moeās relic it wouldnāt have been a problem. And AGE was led to believe that BD2 was going to turn as soon as Moe joined AGE. An idea that I told them was stupid even 12 hours prior. Before the attack even happened. There was no way BD2 was ever going to turn.
Also I was never aware that they were going to invite neutron at all. So the way it ended is how I anticipated it happening the whole time.
Crus how is it unfair. There are clear and direct things you can point to that prove they are either stupid, hypocritical, or were helping HINI. Now I donāt think they were intentionally helping HINI and have never said that. But their actions did end up almost giving HINI a win.
Its funny you expect us to trust an alliance that we had little communication with.
Did SHIP and BD2 ever communicate regarding their diplo untill only 100-200 ticks was left of CE - NO.
Did SHIP fight BD2, right after HINI family made peace with AT - YES.
Is it really that hard for you to swallow that we did not care for what SHIP said or did?
We had excel in our team. The former head of the Asia coalition. Despite all pushback from HINI when he initially joined us.
And you think we would be able to join HINI and lie to Asia? We had been our own independent team for like 2000 ticks minimum. Thereās a reason we were doing our own diplomacy.
Bilal knew neutron was gonna get kicked and same for ice they knew the wss relic was needed lol they knew the whole end of era plan
I think it was motivated by greed and spite
I do not remember ever fighting BD2 until the Asia war. We didnāt participate in the SA invasion at all. We were actually told by Kenny to go to Africa to help push back NA if they tried to invade during that time period.
Another assumption that you make is BD2 was under obligation to support Asia.
No we were not, we didnt care for the most part whoād win the ce, sure weād have preferred Asia to anybody else but not so much that weād go out of our way to help them and ruin our plans.
For the most part, we had trust issues with Asia too, we both wanted different things out of era.
Thatās not the assumption I have made at all. The assumption Iāve made is you didnāt want HINI to win. Considering your name was like āgonna crash into HINIā or something like that Iām pretty sure thatās a correct assumption. But your actions didnāt support that sentiment in the end.
I just assume that since you didnāt want HINI to win, if we told you āif you turn Asia will win. If you donāt turn HINI might winā that you would turn your attack.
I do agree that asia was hard to trust. I didnāt trust Psi at all. None of us did. But we were willing to take that risk because we had Excel with us and we also were pissed at HINI.
Honestly one thing is for sure there were a lot of delusional things from the bd2 side the only reason mode and bd2 had a working relation ship is bilal purely
I donāt know if the bd2 people are in denial or plain blind moe joined AGE you still landed how could he join hini when he is in AGE
Itās the stupidest excuse you guys can go for and your repeating it lol
I know bd2 landed for other reasons which is fine
My honest opinion about bd2 all there guys tend to assume things about alliances without having any direct contact with them
Specially the ship playing Asia sentiment when almost all of them had 0 contact with ship
A closed hive mind fueled by reds and making baseless assumptions
Also one important point bd2 and mode were too different bd2 didnāt mind losing sleep to make sure some1 loses for me I only lose sleep to have a chance at winning
Haha it was gona crash into Hini, i ran out of space lol
That was comic relief and also to strike fear into HINI heart of their pending DOOM lol
I will give you that, towards the end, our bias had gotten too strong to be influenced by words. We did not trust SHIP and we also wanted to end the era with a bang and also win our final battle if possible, which directed us towards SHIPās relic instead of heavily fortified HINI relics.
I mean, is it not obvious HINI is going to try and invade after several continents are taken from them? Thatās what I donāt understand. Everyone (HINI, BYZ, SHIP) was waiting for several days at the border.
I donāt remember this, unless you mean the 9~ squads that Crusnik (HINI) locked of BD2, which we landed in the lock (on purpose)? If itās the same lock then we saw BD2 had armies in the air near HINI, so we knew BD2 couldnāt match us.
Actually there was that one op in China where BD2 matched SHIP and forced them back. We then damaged all or nearly all of BD2 down to 1 hp because we had stacked all our agents there. Only VaLu was close enough to kill at the time, but they felt attacking BD2 directly was going too far.
thank you
But why? It almost handed HINI the win which supposedly you say you didnāt want. We spent that last entire night doing nearly everything Iceman asked, so what was the point of him asking anything if he was just going to do it anyways? Do you not realize you almost screwed over all your friends in Asia coalition because of this??