Extention of CE ( 4000+ ticks )

[Malicewolf]

1. Many of you are acting like this will be the last era ever. It will not be. It will be the final CE within BD1, yes, but not the last of BD in totality (except if we make the same kind of mistakes we did on CE2). Many of you seem to have forgotten that Michael was about 1 day away from literally cancelling CE2 and ending it immediately (around the tick 3500 time frame if i’m not mistaken). Luckily the community agreed to a hard stop at a later time frame, but CE2 was just a smidgen away from killing the game that I don’t think any of those currently advocating for extension/unlimited were even here for… Unlimited ticks was NEVER on the board for CE3. This was stated flat out at the VERY beginning. Everyone was honestly lucky to have even gotten to vote. The original time frame set for CE3 was 2500 ticks. Then it was decided we would let the community make a vote and popular vote would be done (within the limits we set up as mentioned above). If you read the topic with “unlimited ticks” poll, you will LITERALLY see that it was clearly stated it would NOT be an option.

2. We have not changed rules mid era in YEARS. This has been a fairly iron clad rule since Alex took over as CM. We’ve told people on countless era’s this exact thing many times. It’s NEVER fair to change rules mid game. It’s a complete slap in the face to anyone who was playing by the rules we set at the start.

3. I’m not making assumptions, I’m stating what it is you guys are asking of us (whether or not you think you are asking it). YOU are making a current assumption that this CE HAS to end in a bad scenario you won’t like right now (i.e. - a boring score win). You still have 1500 ticks (2 months) to prevent that from being a scenario. Why bother asking for an extension if there’s still “plenty of time”? Doesn’t that mean you have enough time? Am I supposed to greenlight unlimited extensions until everyone is satisfied? You have 4000 ticks to figure out your win strategies. You’ve only completed 2500 of it and asking for more? How much more do you think you absolutely need right now? Am i supposed to greenlight until tick 8000 right now? Double it when we barely made it past half the era? Perhaps you think 6000 is the right number?

4. I’m fine with having discussions. But the honest truth is, this ISN’T a discussion. It was stated on Feb 19th that it would NOT be up for discussion.

Tick limit or no tick limit?

Moved it to prevent confusion with the official vote — we’ve decided on a tick limit for very obvious reasons, namely that the last one without almost killed the game and we don’t seek to kill the game right as we launch a sequel. So while we will watch it as always, we are extremely unlikely to consider it, and doing so would require different management and a different strategy to the other rules as I personally can’t take responsibility for something I don’t think we can manage…

CE3: Tick Limit Vote

To be clear - the maximum number of ticks for CE will be 4000. I have to make a management decision for many reasons including launch of BD2 and I made it. So please stick to the admin vote. If most votes are for 4000 ticks then that will be the limit. But no limit is not an option Thank you!

What i’ve been trying to help clarify is WHY it isn’t an option to go unlimited (or even to do an extension); IT IS UNFAIR TO ANYONE WHO MADE STRATEGIES/PLANS FOR 4000 TICK LIMIT TO CHANGE THE RULES MID ERA. Even if 99.9% of you said you wanted an extension, it is absolutely 100% unfair for us to pull the rug from underneath someone who did everything in their power to play within the rules we stated at the beginning of the era. And just based on this topic alone, I can say it looks much closer to a 50-50 for who wants an extension/unlimited era.

It doesn’t matter that it’s not tick 3800 right now. Teams have made plans for a 4000 tick limit and it’s not fair to suddenly make them change plans for a longer time frame. I DO NOT know diplomatic circumstances. For all I know, someone may have made a NAP with another team until tick 3500 knowing that they could hold that team off for 500 ticks (if they keep to their NAP). But maybe we change it to 4500 ticks. Now, they have to hold them for 1000 ticks. That’s not fair. They didn’t plan for that scenario and now have to revise. Maybe they try to go back and renegotiate and the team denies an extension. Maybe the team had every intention to betray in the first place. Regardless though, it doesn’t matter. The point is, folks made plans based on what we said were going to be the rules. And no matter how you look at it, it’s unfair to force those folks to change their strategy.